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Don't know about everybody else, but I find it fascinating seeing other people's variation of the ssg!

So I've set up this thread so you can post your pics and vids!

So show us what you've got!

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As it is now!

what is the schematic for the 2nd one it looks good ) . I m very intersted in it .

a bit tricky to draw the schematic for it but I will give it a go

Here you go!

it is basically a standard multicoil schematic, though it is wired slightly differently using wire "hoops"

Hey intovetre bate .
Can you tell me your name , it would much easyer to use this forum and i want to ask you if i want to make a SSG from aluminum at the size of a BIKE Weal with very high performce bearings on the rotor and get a big speed like 1000-2000 Rpm how much time you think the batteryes that are holding the system can be use for and what amp`s hour you thinking it would be good to get a very big performance and the dimensions of the coil . Do you think that pushing more then 0.340 mamp`s like you are doing with your very small device will require bigger cable ?if yes how big ! .
Im thinking to replicate your advanced SSG in a big one like a 10-20 times bigger scale . help me with some info so i can know what to purced to start the project.

Thankyou
Mario

You can call me Seph if you like bit easier on the fingers than introvertebrate

the normal RPM for a bike wheel sized rotor is around 250 - 300 RPM... to get a rotor that size into the thousands of RPM it will have to be very well balanced, light, and streamlined... the spokes may create alot of drag so you may have to work around that.

several big cols will be needed... I can only guess at how many you will need, though I would think about 3 x 750 turn trifilar coils would probably do it... that will probably draw several amps... so, as a guess, lets say it will draw 3 amps you will need a 60 amp hour battery to run it efficiently (at 12v).

This is the fastest BIG ssg I have seen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CivUKkFdx0

it runs on 63volts and draws about 0.56 amps (about 35 watts, equivellant to 12v at 3 amps)

You won't need to use larger magnet wire since you will be using several wires in parellel.

Though it isn't really a good idea to throw yourself in at the deep end... the ssg has alot of subtleties that need to be learned through experience. For high performance (I'm not talking about RPM) you need to have a combination of many factors just right. This is why it is a good idea to start with a smaller model so you can experiment and change things easily... if you rush in a build a huge replication you will find it harder (and more expensive) to change things later.

Don't rush it and bigger isn't always better anyway! The main advantage of having a big rotor is that you can add more coils around it. A second advantage is that it will spin at a LOWER rpm! This means less air resistance and less friction on the bearings so it is more efficient!

It isn't about RPM... more importantly its about pulses per amp per minute.

Hi Seph,

Thanks for create this forum...I'm sure it will help much.

I'm in progress built 4 wheel SSG on one shaft. All using trifillar coil 0.75mm x 2 power coil and 0.50mm trigger coil.

My question is :

Which the better one....All trigger coil in series or have own circuits each one? or maybe you have schematic for that setup.

Thanks for your helps.
Regards, Selamatg

hmmmm....

If you can line up all the magnets on the wheel with the coils PRECISELY and all the coil are pretty much identical then only one of your coils would need a trigger coil and that trigger coil could fire all the transistors at the same time.

It would basically be the same as the schematic found on this page:

http://freeenergy.freeforums.org/adding ... ls-t9.html

But if you want all the coils to fire out of sync then you are better off building a seperate circuit for each rotor.

Personally, I would try going for a 1 trigger coil circuit.

Good luck with it! Let us know how it comes along!

Thanks for your quick reply...

Basically the wheel already done. The magnet not line up and the rotor made by wood.
I make like engine 4 cylinder system 1, 3, 4,2. Every rotor have 4 magnet so all magnet are 22.5 degree different. I miss the point if series trigger coil is happen if all magnet line up between the rotor.

Question:

1. how to find best tunning?
2. Is speed related to how quick that device will charge the Battery?
3. People talking about earth ground connect to Negative primary battery will increase the result?
4. It save if I use 24V system in Input side to 12V in output side?

Sorry for my English and many question .

regards,
Selamatg

Hi..

Another question, Today I run My SG (4 rotor) and have separate circuit to charging 1 battery. The charging progress still slow ... it draw 1.6 Am running in 12V. Maybe something wrong in my tunning.

I have hear if using Capacitor with timing switch with OPTO can speed up the charging time.

Is that true? if yes please advice the schematic how to do that....I have built the timing switch using 555 and ready with OPTO. Actually that to prepare for my next project with solid state one.

Thank you

selamatg

Tuning is a big topic so I will open another thread as a guide

Speed isn't directly related to how fast the battery will charge compared to the input.

Aaron and Kevin have had success with earthing thier SSGs though few others have posted similar success. I have a feeling the earth rod is alot more like an Earth Battery and isn't as simple as just hooking the ssg to earth with a diode. It may help but I haven't seen improved results.

If you are using the standard compants ( 2N3055, 1N4007, etc) then it should be able to handle 24v on the front end. Putting 12v on the back end should be fine, but you may not have as good a result as having a higher voltage on the back end than the front end.

The capacitor method may be an improvement though it is fiddly to get good results with it. The advantage of using the capacitor method is that it converts the cold electricity back into standard electricity, and for some reason, that let's you swap the batteries on the SSG... hmmm

Not sure about that one but that's what they say! A battery charged directly with radiant energy isn't as good at running inductive loads (like the SSG) as it is at running resistive loads.

I'll get back to you soon about tuning methods. Feel free to start another thread about your motor... would be good to see some pics and if you could let me know the spec of your coils, resistors etc that would be good as well

Thank for answering me.

I will post the picture later soon...I need to tidy up the setup, I try put 24 in front end and 12V in back end today....the result are very good...Voltage move up from 12.48 - 13.48 for about 10 hours.

The charging Battery is 12V-100AH.... I still wait up to 14.50V if possible.
What your recommended for max charging voltage and minimum voltage for load?
So far I'm happy with this progress...

Thanks and regards,
Selamatg

There isn't really a max charging voltage for the battery. When you first start conditioning your batteries you take them up to the max voltage then it will level off naturally.

With normal electricity this is very dangerous, though with radiant charge it should be no problem. Though I must say, as a safety note, that the risk is still there so it is not a good idea to leave the batteries unattended while supercharging.

I said there isn't a max charging voltage for the battery, but there is a max voltage for the SSG to charge. I wouldn't charge anything higher than 48volts (Four 12v batteries in series) with the componants we are using.

Wouldn't worry about the minimum voltage either you can leave out the charging battery and hook the 1N4007 diode straight back to the positive of the primary battery and the motor will run fine.

Hi Seph, found your forum!

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