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How to Build the Bedini Motor/SSG

Discussion of the construction of John Bedini's inventions including instructions and tips.

How to Build the Bedini Motor/SSG

Postby Introvertebrate on Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:21 pm

This thread is to discuss the construction of the SSG. To help newcomers, here are some videos from my channel that demonstrate how to put the circuit together and make the coil.

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How To Build The Bedini SSG/Monopole Energizer - Part 1
[flash width=425 height=355]http://www.youtube.com/v/zJySgeSpJpQ&hl=en[/flash]
If video does not play, click here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJySgeSpJpQ

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How To Build The Bedini SSG/Monopole Energizer - Part 2
[flash width=425 height=355]http://www.youtube.com/v/mOGjLDU2lX8&hl=en[/flash]
If video does not play, click here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOGjLDU2lX8

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How To Make The Coil For The Bedini SSG/Monopole Energizer
[flash width=425 height=355]http://www.youtube.com/v/GTjglYb9H3A&hl=en[/flash]
If video does not play, click here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTjglYb9H3A

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What a handsome guy... 8-) Here are some of the images from the videos...

Any questions feel free to ask! Enjoy and good luck with your build!
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problems with bedini type motor/generator

Postby frozenfew on Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:46 pm

Hello, i've constructed a bedinin type motor/generator, everything appears to be hooked up correctly, yet it will not spin the rotor. If I manually spin it, it will charge the secondary battery, it just will not self pulse/spin. How can i tell if the components are blown? if i hold the volt meter to the connections on the POT there is no reading. Also the coils sing, as mentioned by other people on various sites. I would very much appreciate any suggestions or guidance.

Thank you :D

(also, as I pull the core out, it changes the pitch, much like a trombone, the farther out, the lower the pitch. this is related to the magnetic fields as they pass the coil.)
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problems with bedini type motor/generator

Postby frozenfew on Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:46 pm

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problems with bedini type motor/generator

Postby frozenfew on Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:46 pm

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Postby frozenfew on Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:47 pm

One thing i don't quite understand is how these people refer to bedini type motors as 'radiant energy'.
isn't it using the diodes to simply capture the current that is measured as 'resistance' on normal systems where it would be going to ground? this adds immensely to the C.O.P. over unity(similar to Tom beardons MEG.)

Also, a transistor is also an AMPLIFIER, so right there your going to have more voltage than the battery, adding to over unity.

basically it's an overunity system where you have to provide seed power.

how does bedini justify calling it radiant?? any generator utilizes magnetic feilds passing into and out of proximity of a coil.



Sorry if i sound kinda salty, but i'm just learning this stuff, and it seems no-one has answers. :)


(I see the wardencliff banner above. that's depicting radiant energy. no wires needed aside from an antennae to collect the power. is that correct?)

hope to hear from ya. INTROVERTEBRATE HAS BEEN THE BIGGEST HELP THAT I'VE FOUND! THANKS MAN!
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Re: problems with bedini type motor/generator

Postby Jan-Willem on Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:48 pm

frozenfew wrote:Hello, i've constructed a bedinin type motor/generator, everything appears to be hooked up correctly, yet it will not spin the rotor. If I manually spin it, it will charge the secondary battery, it just will not self pulse/spin. How can i tell if the components are blown? if i hold the volt meter to the connections on the POT there is no reading. Also the coils sing, as mentioned by other people on various sites. I would very much appreciate any suggestions or guidance.

Thank you :D

(also, as I pull the core out, it changes the pitch, much like a trombone, the farther out, the lower the pitch. this is related to the magnetic fields as they pass the coil.)


Hi,

I recently also started building a motor, everthing acording to diagram, but also my rotor does not turn. How did you solve your problem?

I went over the video's and it looks like the diode is in another direction on the video than on the pic. Also i could not find a in4001 diode and used a in4007, could that be the reason?

Thank you
JW
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Postby selamatg on Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:23 pm

Hi.....


Welcome to the forum.....

The circuit are correct, but with your question regarding diode, I'm not very sure.....
I guess you can change 1N4007 with 1N4005 or 1N4006
Here is the the link for the spec
http://www.tnw.utwente.nl/onderwijs_ove ... 1n4007.pdf

1N4001 & 1N4007 is big different.
If you can post the detail of your setup or any picture I'm sure will help us to solve the problem.

I'm not the expert for this device, but I have a few setup good run for several months..

regards,
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Postby Jan-Willem on Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:18 am

Hi

Thank you for the reply and info! Very Helpful.

I am New to this so forgive me if i ask stupid qestoins!

1. How would i determan the polarity of my magnets?
2. and how would i know when the electro magnet (Coil) is N when facing the rotar?
3. according to the diagram of the coil you have 4 wires, which ones are the begining and which ones the end?

Please help me, i really need to get this motor running and i do not know where to find my mistake.
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Postby selamatg on Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:03 pm

Hi.....


To determine the polarity of the magnet, I guess using a compass is the best one if your magnet no mark on it or you can use a razor-blade put on top / surface of the water, it will show you N and S so you can check your magnet by closing both.

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The picture above will answer your question #2 & #3.
If you put the top coil correctly will facing north.

Please note : AWG #23 is bigger diameter than AWG #26
and the spacing between magnet no more than three times of the wide of the magnet.
In my setup about 2.5 of wide magnet.

hope will help
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Thank you

Postby Jan-Willem on Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:52 am

:D Hi There

I would just like to thank you, these pictures solved my problems. my magnets were the wrong way! and now after fixing that, my motor is running.

I had to play a little with the resistors, but the best reading i got was 14.10V at the charging batt side.

The only thing is that the transistor seems to be getting a little HOT, is that normal? The coil is cold and not heating up.

Any way, Thanx a Million
JW :lol:
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Postby selamatg on Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:44 am

Hi...


I'm glad your "motor" running..... :D :D :dance: :dance:

Maybe too much current you are running, how many amp draw of your setup.
I guess the best tuning is try finding the highest RPM with the lower current draw..
You can play with your variable resistor..

I suggest you read the tuning method in this forum.......

My Transistor always cold during running...and the charging battery up to 14.90V
but someone suggest no more than 14.60 for safety......


Selamatg :thumb:
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Postby watkykjy on Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:47 pm

Hi Guys,

I spent the last 2 days building a very nice motor from an old PC fan. I acutally just used the bearings and the balanced shaft of the old fan, and took out the rest. it's one of the huge datacentre fans :)

Anyways, the magnets are all on, and they run very close to the coil, which is a bifiliar wound coil of 26G wire, about 8 inches long, and about 1000 turns (it weighs just about 2 pounds), all wound around a magnetite core.

The problem is that I measure a voltage spike when I turn the motor manually, but it doesn't get pulsing by itself. i have tried changing the magnets around, changing the spin of the motor, and double checking all the connections, etc etc.

Does anyone else have a suggestion that I may try?

Potentially my transistor blew?

also, in the video made by intervertobrate, the diode accross the transistor is turned around in the final picture, so I just want to check which way it should be. According to the schematic, the way he had it originally is right, but I just want to make sure :)

Thanks, any help is greatly appreciated!
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No Pulsing problem

Postby Jan-Willem on Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:18 am

:lol: First of all - WELCOME to the site :lol:

Now the next Issue - To get your bidini Running

From what i can gather you should have a pretty nice motor - would like to see a pic

I also recently build one and beleive me - I strugled a lot and learned a lot throuh that. I damaged 4 Transistors :x

But now running with the help of :lol: selamatg :lol:

The Faults I Had Might just help You
1. My magnets was not N facing towards the Rotor
2. I connected the Wrong Power coil wire to the Batt
3. When checking the Polarity of the coil i Noticed that i started my winding wrong, causing my coil to be S facing the rotor. Turn the coil around
4. The resistor value was not correct


Hope that This will help you, Poliraties are Very Important.
Test your magnets with a compass, N facing magnet will attract the S of the Compass
The same with your coil conect the ending power coil (6) to + and the starting wire (3) to -
the S of the compass should now be attracted to your coil. If that is not the case - turn your coil around and use the other end towards the Rotor

If every thing is correct and still not Running, Lower your resister Value

Just copy and do everthing according to the pictures that this Fantastic website provides

PS: The Diode should be according to the PICTURE of the POD

Let us know what happend!
JW
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Postby selamatg on Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:02 pm

Welcome watkykjy,....


My suggestion just follow the circuit from Introvertebrate, then double check your coil setup as coil setup picture on this thread....

If you have no compass to check the Polarities of the magnet, you can use your coil. Use small battery then connect negative terminal to the lower wire and positive to the upper wire (doesn't mater the trigger or the power wire) that will create magnet N Polarities.

I hope you can understand my English ( sorry, English not my first language)

Thanks JW for your help..... your explanation a lot easier to understand ... :D :D :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

Good luck Watkykjy

Regards, Selamatg
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Postby mop on Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:57 pm

when winding the coil, does it matter if some of the windings overlap or are not perfectly parallel ?

My first attempt looks a bit rough with a few bulges along the coil as some spots got more winds than others.

Does this bugger it up ?

thanks

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